CNC Turning

Innovative CNC Turning: Achieving High-Precision Trapezoidal Threads with Standard Cutting Tools—Saving Time and Money!

In the field of mechanical machining, turning large-pitch metric trapezoidal threads has long been a challenging task.

Traditional forming tool methods suffer from numerous issues, including poor surface quality, low machining efficiency, and high tooling costs.

Today, we present a breakthrough machining solution: utilizing the most common 35° standard external turning inserts.

Through innovative programming and process methods, we efficiently machine large-pitch trapezoidal threads with a 30° thread angle, perfectly resolving this industry pain point!

Current Situation

The helix angle of metric trapezoidal threads is 30°.

For threads with pitches ranging from 1.5 to 8 mm, standard carbide trapezoidal thread inserts can be purchased for turning operations.

However, for large-pitch trapezoidal threads exceeding 8 mm pitch, no standard carbide inserts are available.

Consequently, form tools are typically the only option.

This traditional approach has significant limitations:

1. Poor surface finish quality

2. Limited cutting speeds resulting in low machining efficiency

3. High costs and extended lead times for custom form tools

4. High skill requirements for operators

A fundamental principle in CNC lathe tooling dictates: Standard turning tools, including standard inserts, should be prioritized whenever possible, resorting to form tools only when absolutely necessary.

So how can we machine 30° trapezoidal threads using 35° standard inserts?

Innovative Solution

By selecting standard turning inserts with a 35-degree rake angle, we successfully addressed this challenge despite the metric trapezoidal thread’s 30-degree flank angle appearing incompatible at first glance.

This was achieved through specialized tool arrangement and machining path design.

Machining Example: Turning a 10mm pitch trapezoidal thread.

Machining Example Turning a 10mm Pitch Trapezoidal Thread
Machining Example Turning a 10mm Pitch Trapezoidal Thread
  • Standard tool body and standard inserts

Utilizes the most common standard tool body and 35° diamond-shaped inserts (VCMT160404), eliminating the need for any special tools and significantly reducing tooling costs.

Standard Blade
Standard Blade
  • Three-Tool Collaborative Operation

Through the precise arrangement and coordinated operation of three tools on the tool holder, rough machining, left-side finishing, and right-side finishing are completed respectively.

Three knives working in tandem
Three knives working in tandem
  • Machining Process

T1 Tool: Rough turning with 20 passes at a 17.5-degree feed angle to remove most of the stock.

Processing Process 1
Processing Process 1

T2 Tool: Finish-turn the left wall and left bottom surface of the groove to ensure precision on the left side.

Processing Process 2
Processing Process 2

T3 Tool: Finish-turn the right wall and right bottom surface of the groove to ensure right-side surface accuracy.

Processing Process 3
Processing Process 3

Macro Program

Technical experts developed a parametric programming solution that adapts to machining trapezoidal threads of various specifications by simply modifying a few parameters in the main program, significantly enhancing program versatility and production efficiency.

O520

#101=100;(#1 represents the outer diameter of the trapezoidal thread)

#102=100;(#2 represents the length of the trapezoidal thread, use 150 for machining)

#103=10:(#3 represents the pitch P of the trapezoidal thread)

#104=0.5;(#4 represents the top clearance of the trapezoidal thread, which can be found in the standard)

#105=25;(#5 represents the length of the feed rate increase segment when turning this thread, can be increased/decreased)

#106=0.4;(#6 represents the tool tip radius used for finishing this thread, P2~P5 use 0.2, P6~P12 use 0.4, P14~P44 use 0.8)

#107=20; (#7 represents the number of roughing passes using a 35-degree center tool, adjustable)

#108=0.15; (#8 represents the X-axis depth of cut per pass for left/right wall finishing using a 35-degree center tool, adjustable)

#109=0202;(#9 denotes tool position and offset number for finishing left wall and left half-bottom surface, subject to actual instructions)

#111=0303;(#11 denotes tool position and offset number for finishing right wall and right half-bottom surface, subject to actual instructions)

#113=5; ( #13 represents the number of infeeds for the left and right half-bottom surfaces during finish turning, adjustable)

G54 S300 M03; ( Use S360 for machining, adjustable; M03 for right-hand threads / M04 for left-hand threads)

T0101; (Tool position and offset number for rough turning using the center tool; adjust as required)

G00 X145 Z100: (X and Z command values for starting position determined based on machine tool and workpiece dimensions)

G65 P530 A#101 B#102 C#103 I#104 J#5 K#6 D#7 E#8 F#9 H#11 M#13; (Call subroutine O530 and assign values to its 11 variables)

G00 X145 Z100 M05; (The X and Z command values for the return position should be determined based on the machine tool and workpiece size)

M30;

Significant Technical Advantages and Notable Benefits

For coarse trapezoidal threads with pitches exceeding 8mm:

1. Cost reduction: Eliminates the need for high-speed steel or carbide form turning tools.

2. Enhanced precision: The profile is “traced” during turning, ensuring high sectional contour accuracy.

3. Improved quality: Minimal contact area per pass allows higher feed rates, resulting in superior surface finish.

4. Lower skill requirements: Operators need relatively fewer specialized skills.

For metric trapezoidal threads with pitches ≤8mm:

1. Cost savings: Eliminates the need for specialized trapezoidal thread inserts and corresponding tool bodies.

2. Controllable quality: Avoids surface quality issues caused by forming tool cutting.

3. Flexible production: A single solution accommodates multiple specifications, reducing tool changeover time.

Summary

This technological innovation not only resolves the challenge of machining large-pitch trapezoidal threads but also demonstrates a novel machining approach: by leveraging programming and process innovations, it fully unlocks the potential of standard cutting tools to achieve efficient, precision machining.

FAQ

Turning large-pitch metric trapezoidal threads has traditionally been challenging due to poor surface quality, low machining efficiency, high tooling costs, and the skill-intensive nature of form tool methods. Standard carbide inserts are unavailable for pitches exceeding 8mm, making traditional solutions inadequate.

By using common 35° standard external turning inserts, combined with innovative programming and process design, machinists can efficiently produce 30° trapezoidal threads. This approach eliminates the need for custom form tools, reducing costs while maintaining high precision and surface quality.

The three-tool method involves rough machining with T1, left-side finishing with T2, and right-side finishing with T3. Coordinated operation ensures both walls and bottom surfaces are machined accurately, improving contour precision and surface finish for large-pitch trapezoidal threads.

A macro programming solution allows operators to machine trapezoidal threads of various specifications by adjusting a few parameters, such as pitch, outer diameter, and depth of cut. This flexibility reduces repetitive programming tasks, streamlines setup, and enables rapid adaptation to different thread dimensions.

Using 35° standard inserts for coarse threads provides significant benefits:

  • Eliminates expensive form tools
  • Maintains high sectional contour accuracy through profile “tracing”
  • Achieves superior surface finish via minimal contact area per pass
  • Reduces the skill level required for operators

Yes. For threads with pitches ≤8mm, this solution:

  • Reduces tooling costs by avoiding specialized trapezoidal inserts
  • Ensures controllable quality and avoids surface defects from forming tools
  • Supports flexible production across multiple thread specifications with minimal tool changeover
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